We finally have our Portuguese visas!

I hadn’t realized how worried I’d been about getting our Portuguese long-stay visas until we finally had them in hand – or in passport, to be precise. With the uncertainty gone, relief flooded through me.

The tension had been building for five months, ever since we began the formal visa application process last May. A woman who worked in Ottawa’s Embassy of Portugal had told us several times that allowing two months to receive our visas was an entirely reasonable time estimate. And we believed her. Rookie mistake. We had read about Portuguese bureaucracy then, and thought we knew about it when I wrote initially about us moving to Portugal, but in retrospect, we were still wet behind the ears.

We were all smiles when we finally had our long-stay D7 visas in our passports.

In the interests of helping others who may want to do what we’re doing, here’s the visa process we experienced as Canadians (the process differs in other countries):

  • May 5: Uploaded our documents to the embassy’s E-Visa website. We thought the two-month waiting period started then, and had bought travel health insurance and booked our flights to Portugal for July3 (both are required for the application). But we were wrong about the timeline. There is very little information available for this process and no one answered our calls or emails.
  • June 1: Our Portuguese apartment lease started. Too bad, so sad – we weren’t there to enjoy it.
  • June 21: In-person appointment at the Embassy of Portugal to review our documents and pay the application fee. This is when the estimated two-month waiting period really started. The woman told us we could expect our visas in two months – maybe three, but she didn’t really think it would take three months. Again, we believed her.
  • July 3-4: Flew to Portugal anyhow, entering on a 90-day tourist visa. While we had a wonderful summer setting up our apartment in Alcobaça and exploring Portugal, that worry about our visas haunted me. I spent more than a few sleepless nights, tossing and turning and worrying about what we’d do if the visas didn’t come through.
We spent most of July setting up our apartment, with furniture, light fixtures and appliances.
  • Aug. 21: No visa at the two-month mark. No response to several emails asking for an update.
  • Sept. 21: No visa at the three-month mark. No response.
  • Sept. 22: Flew home to Canada because we’d been in Portugal for nearly 90 days. (If you overstay the 90-day tourist visa, you can be fined or even banned from re-entering for several years.) Our flights back to Portugal were booked for Oct. 5, but would we get our long-stay visas by then? We’d have to stay in Canada until we got them.
  • Sept. 26: We showed up unannounced at the Embassy of Portugal to ask where our visas were in the process. The man agreed it had been taking too long and said he’d send an email to the visa section in Lisbon and call us in two days with an update.
  • Sept. 28: No call. We began making plans to stay in Canada for at least a month, waiting. I agreed to bring pumpkin pies to Thanksgiving dinner at my sister’s.
Our prodigal duffel bag with its precious contents (including my camp blanket with childhood badges) finally returned after a three-week tour through the bowels of the Lisbon Airport…or so we think.
  • Sept. 29: Got the call! Our visas were ready! We quickly realized we had to get to the embassy right away, within 30 minutes, to get the visas inserted into our passports before the embassy closed. The next day was a holiday, then the weekend, then we’d be in Toronto, leaving just the morning of Oct. 5 – the day we were to leave – as the only other day to get them inserted. So, we jumped in the car and raced to the embassy, thankfully hitting just one red light and no cops on the freeway. We arrived with 10 minutes to spare. The embassy man said it would take just 10 minutes. I paced the waiting room, listening to him have a good ol’ chat with a colleague in the back room. Thirty minutes later, he emerged with our passports, visas inserted. Hallelujah!
  • Oct 5-6: Flew back to Portugal. At the border control desk, I proudly pointed out our D7 visas to the agent. “We’re moving to Portugal!” I announced. He smiled, asked where, and gave a approving nod when I said “Alcobaça.” Then he stamped our passports.

Our first visitors! My sister Cynthia and her partner, Jim, came in September. We explored Porto and the Douro Valley, where we picked and stomped grapes destined to become Port and wine.

Through our summer in Portugal, we learned a key cultural characteristic: Portuguese people tend not to respond by email or phone, even when they’ve promised to do so, if they don’t have an answer. For example, in North America, if you send an email asking for an update, you usually get a reply right away, even if it’s “Sorry, I’ll get back to you tomorrow.” Not so here. If the person doesn’t have an answer, you won’t get a response until they do. This characteristic explains why we didn’t get any answers to our emails requesting visa updates. The same thing happened to us at the bank when our Portuguese credit cards were delayed and with stores when our appliances didn’t arrive on time.

“One of the best cultural shifts that happens when you settle into Portugal is to learn to shrug, smile, and remember that it IS Portugal,” said our upstairs neighbour, Maxine. And she’s right. It’s the only way to stay calm and sane here.

Despite worrying about our visas, we spent a wonderful summer exploring the sights in Portugal, including Roman ruins at Conimbriga, the Gotheborg ship, Lisbon’s National Tile Museum and the Sāo Bernardo festival in Alcobaça, plus listening to fado music in Coimbra and relaxing at home.

I’ll need to hone my patience because the process of moving to Portugal is not yet complete. The next step is getting our Resident´s card at an appointment with Portugal’s immigration and borders service, the Serviço de Estrangeiros e Fronteiras (SEF). Normally, this SEF appointment is three or four months after you receive your visa. But for us, it’s on May 8, 2023 – 7.5 months later. The sticky point is that, until your SEF appointment, you’re allowed only two entries into Portugal and one of those is your initial entry (Oct. 6, for us). So that will trim our travelling wings until next spring. However, there’s still a lot of Portugal to explore.

Along with some of our new expat friends (left to right, Ivy, me, Maxine, Bill, Kate, Sean), we explored Parque Natural das Serras de Aire e Candeeiros with guide Antonio of Go West Tours in August. The Grutas de Mira de Aire [Mira de Aire Caves] were a spectacular mix of stalactites, stalagmites, columns, curtains, streams, waterfalls, bridges, windows, and enormous caverns.

We got back to Alcobaça in time to celebrate Canadian Thanksgiving with some of our new American expat friends. We had to improvise since we couldn’t get a whole turkey or sage or cranberry sauce or canned pumpkin. (Someone told us we might be able to order a whole turkey at the market. We’ll check that out for Christmas.)

But, with our developing skills of flexibility, patience and shrugging, we put together a delicious dinner anyhow. Along with our friends, we gave thanks that we’re in Portugal, able to enjoy this marvellous country.

With no whole turkeys available, we bought parts and browned them so we had juices to make gravy. Our “turkey” had 4 legs!
Instead of canned pumpkin, I cooked frozen pumpkin cubes and mashed them. I rolled out the pastry using a wine bottle – full works better because of the weight.
Our Thanksgiving dinner was successful!

We got our Portuguese visas in Ottawa on Sept. 29, 2022. Find out where we are right now by visiting our ‘Where’s Kathryn?’ page.

19 Comments on “We finally have our Portuguese visas!

  1. I just stumbled across this post and it was very helpful. My partner and I have been planning to move to Portugal this fall and this clear and detailed post has really helped to better set our expectations (and make better plans, accordingly). I think this may have saved us some very real trouble with timing travel needed for work. Thanks so much for sharing your experience!

    Mary (a fellow Ottawan)

    1. Hey, fellow Ottawan! I´m so happy that you found this helpful! However… are you aware that SEF has now become AIMA? Big reorganization that has affected the timing of many people´s visas. I´m afraid I can´t tell you exactly what effects the changes have made on visa times from Ottawa, since we haven´t paid strict attention since we got ours. Just be forewarned there are changes. The Facebook group Americans and Friends PT keeps track of processing times. Even though it´s American, you can pick up good tips there. The Canadians in Portugal Facebook group is… less helpful.

  2. Lovely to see your journey. We are also taking the same leap. So wonderful to have a perspective in the dark 🙂 <3

    Would it be ok if I befriend you in FB?

    I've sent you a friend request 🙂

    Warm regards,
    Milena

    1. It’s a big leap, but worth it! We learned from others’ experiences, so I’m happy to ‘pay it forward’ to you and anyone else who decides to move to Portugal.

    1. Thanks, Arlene. Unfortunately, we’ve been doing so much that I’m way behind on posting blog stories. Much more to come!!

  3. Hey Kathryn & Bill – Congrats on getting your limited time Visa! We trust you’ll be luckier at renewal time.
    We can ‘almost’ imagine the depth & width of your anxiety as your deadline for Visa receipt loomed into the final hours. Wow! Great to know you’re able to now relax a bit and expand your accumulation of new friends and growing knowledge of Portugal’s geographical & historical treasures. Keep smiling… – Moe & Shirley

    1. Thanks, Moe! Yes, we’re not thinking about renewal time now. Just basking in the relief of getting our visas for now…

  4. Bravo!
    Interesting how cultural differences are reflected in emails, too. Perhaps the passport/ visa bureau should have an exclaimer in this regard. It would be helpful.

  5. Parabéns! You are now officially Portuguese, yes? 😉 Dual citizenship. Wow! That Thanksgiving meal you prepared looked fabulous. You are so creative and flexible. “Go with the flow,” as they say. And shrug a lot. Will your American ex-pat friends return the favour (or US “favor”) by inviting you to celebrate their Thanksgiving now? Two Thanksgiving meals? That would be wonderful! It sounds like you’re finally getting a handle on how the Portuguese bureaucracy works. A little different than Canada’s (sometimes) more efficient system. Quite a “Revelation,” eh? It’s also great you finally got your errant bag back from the airline. It took quite a while. All the best from beautiful Canada where we’re currently enjoying lots of sunshine and unexpectedly warm weather (+21 C expected for Saturday!) Stay safe! – Em.

    1. Oooo. Parabéns! You’re learning Portuguese! Obrigada!
      We don’t have dual citizenship and likely won’t. Once we get the Permanent Resident card, we can stay here for up to five years. Despite the name, it doesn’t really mean that we can stay here permanently. At the five-year-mark, we could (if we wanted to) apply for citizenship. At this point, we’re not thinking that we will. Our plan is to return to Canada, which is and always will be our home.

  6. Sitting at a Tim’s in Uxbridge waiting for my brother and his wife to arrive, I thoroughly enjoyed the read. You folks are creative and have no fear. Look forward to following your exploits. Have to say you are missed here. Enjoy!!!

  7. You deserve an A+ for your creative Thanksgiving dinner, which looked delicious! Looks like a feast for many.
    Congratulations on your Visas.
    Gayle

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